So there's actually more to it now than elementalist promo vids and artwork which looks nothing like the game - dev walkthrough vids from gamescom.
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/guild-wars-2/11916 (cam)
I normally don't care much for WSAD MMOs but this looks just so... actiony I guess? That it might just work. I also like the concept of dynamic events instead of those idiotic instances. What I don't like is how despite pushing the whole "your story" thing so hard there aren't even any dialogue choices. I would hope that the character's answers depend on the morality you pick during character creation(charm/something/fierce) but eh, since when do I give devs benefit of the doubt? Still, playing a goody two-shoes is nothing new in videogames, so it's not like it ruins the entire game.
ArenaNet? Meh.
Funny how that it looks like Bioware of all people that will probably be breathing some "innovation" into the MMO genre, with ideas that are as old as the RPG genre itself. Oh my God, the idea of there being actual storylines and actual characters that experience arcs in a persistent online world?! BLASPHEMY!
Why were the millions whom play MMORPGs just content with playing games which offered really nothing more than grinding that achieved nothing of any real value?
Wotchoo smokin' Eva?
Arenanet and GW are one of the few success stories outside of WoW precisely because they did it differently.
No fees, quick to level and whole swathes of what other games would term "end-game content".
And have you actually played the original Guild Wars?
Story events there change instances according to progress. For example, the recent "War in Kryta" quest-line added extra unique enemies to previously explored areas depending on your character's progress through the game, culminating in a massive battle in the continent's capital city, Lion's Arch. This content was invisible to players who hadn't progressed that far in the game. But this isn't new to Guild Wars, and is something they've been doing since the very beginning; it's just the latest example of exactly how ArenaNet are pushing their technology to its limits.
And nobody else in MMOs has as elegant a content delivery system as Guild Wars.
A friend recently came back to play GW after having played WoW for the past 5 years or so. He was expecting to log in, then spend hours downloading content. But no, he was playing in minutes.
Don't knock what you don't know; ArenaNet have more than proved themselves capable with Guild Wars, and from what I've seen of Guild Wars 2, they're going to take the MMO world by storm.
Guild Wars wasn't a MMO though.
...and then waiting many extra minutes at each new area load.Originally Posted by Malf
Still, I loved GW, mostly because the instanced maps meant avoiding idiots was as easy as leaving town. Plus with the right secondary profession+heroes: ARMY OF BEARS.
Whatever it was, it was pretty damn good, but in the end the financial model rubbed me the wrong way. Played GW for two years, but I'm unlikely to return for GW2 unless it really proves to be some colossal innovation to hit the gaming world. Nonetheless, I'd rather count on it being a commercial success for NCSoft.
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Honestly, Malf and I have talked rather extensively on Steam about Guild Wars. I still want to buy it eventually, bro. Anyway, I trust his opinions on most games and GW unquestionably. If he says something worked/didn't work in GW, I believe him.
Haven't played Guild Wars for years, and I never got so far as buying the expansions because it never quite grabbed me enough.
My main memories of it involve mincing around in a dress (even the male characters seemed to do so) and whacking things. Everything felt like it was covered in glitter and furniture polish, too.
And...shells, yesss. Everyone wanted to trade their crappy horde of shells for my precious sticks. Or something.
Please not more crazed shell trading, NCSoft
I'd like to do some serious GW + Expansions gaming with a nice solid team....
TTLG crowd, of course.
Maybe a good Mexican friend of mine who has the game also...
Like I said, I would love to try the game. I am no beaner, though...
I haven't played GW in, like, two or three years, but I would be up for a TTLG circlejerk in the near future. Just don't expect me to be quite up to date with the builds and tactics anymore.
Well, it would probably be a 50/50 split of TTLG-based Guild Wars noobs and vets. You would certainly not be chastised for being out of practice.
Vato loco 4ever, homes!Like I said, I would love to try the game. I am no beaner, though...
I'm always up for some group GW lovin'.
My main character's name is Beowulf Wyrmslayer.
Hrm.... haven't ever finished any of the main GW campaigns, due to the pain of soloing with bots or teaming up with unknown retards. So I'd be up for going with some known reta...err... top folk
If you've got Nightfall or Eye of the North or indeed both, one of the best things you can do is grab some Heroes. They make playing through campaigns single player a LOT easier. Indeed, they're so effective, it's actually easier to play with Heroes & henchmen or 2 players and 6 Heroes than it is to play with a group of randoms.
I've "Vanquished" all 3 continents now, and aside from the hard snowy levels of Tyria which I did with a friend, I did everything else with Heroes & henchmen (H/H in Guild Wars shorthand).
I still play Guild Wars fairly regularly, and it's the only "mmo" that has held my interest for more than 15 minutes. Mostly because the game rewards intelligent play and is more skill-based than simply leveling up and getting the best stuffs. OH, and I don't have to keep paying to play it after I've already bought it. I'm interested to see what happens with GW2.
And if there are plans to have some TTLG Guild Wars action, count me in. I have multiple characters, but the one I'm on most these days is my monk "Rachel Bieth" (Main character is Kelora Missrix).
If we get enough people I'd love to tag along some night. I have several PvE characters, most notably a healer ritualist and a necromancer that I never quite figured out how to play.
50 minutes long gameplay video, featuring a bald german.
This is looking pretty interesting! Thanks for posting the link. Not sure what the deal with that big red dot in the middle of the HUD is all about.. probably an incomplete model/texture.
A bunch of new videos featuring Guardian and a Thief. Also features half-naked women in sub-zero temperatures, dialogue that's almost cringeworthy and a quest which requires you to kill wild animals in a far away land you reach after ten seconds of running.
I think it's time to stop following this.
I'm playing GW again to get some unlocks for GW2, I could help you if for some weird chance we're online at the same time (I'd love to have more time to play, but alas! I don't). I don't really remember how to add friends in GW, but my most used character is "Queel Cleopatra". Yes, damn bloody typo I never noticed until I was level 20. >Vato loco 4ever, homes!
I have all the expansions and optional content too., and might even be able to give you people an item or two, and some miniatures.
fixed that for you
Haha, truly.
I thought the new gameplay videos were pretty cool. I like most everything they're incorporating into the game so far, and it would seem the more I see from it the more inclined I am to check it out when it's released. I can't say the same about the other upcoming MMO I've tracked (swtor).
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