@NV: Instead of including the pre patched exe's, you could just link to them. But seriously how was it 50 mb? each pre patched exe is only like 2 megs right? I guess I should be asking though, how many exe's there are..?
Thief 1, Thief 2, SS2, and all their related DromEds.
I was exaggerating, it was more like 20mb, and would probably have compressed quite decently.
The other reason I stopped was because I was having a hard time making sense of weakling's instructions for the widescreen patch.
The ss2tool already tries to bundle all the latest fixes for System Shock 2 into one package, so you could use it as a model:
http://www.strangebedfellows.de/inde...pic,392.0.html
Personally I find the widescreen mod one of the easiest to work with. Simply extract all the files (with folders intact) to where your game's installed, run the darkwidescreen.bat file, enter your resolution, "100" for the aspect ratio question, and you're done.
I'm having a bit of trouble trying to using DDfix with Thief Gold.
I first tried the GUI, but it refused to work (I forget what excuse it gave me), so instead I tried the manual install with the already-patched exe. When I did, the screen turned black like it should and flashed back to the desktop a couple of times, apparently attempting to change the resolution. After a few seconds, it crashed with the typical "Thief.exe has caused a problem" blah blah blah message. So I decided to try and patch my exe manually. Unfortunately, when I opened it up with a hex editor, I couldn't find ddraw.dll at all. Furthermore, my exe and the already-patched exe are radiacally different from each other. Any ideas? I can provide hardware specs, but I seriously doubt that they're the problem.
Are you sure you set the resolution correctly in both cam.cfg and ddfix.ini? And that you have ddfix.dll in your Thief Gold folder?
I have a similar problem as Enchantermon.
1) Purchased T: Gold from ebgames, downloaded and installed.
2) Running it plainly starts the game up fine, but when I try to get into a level I get the direct3d reporting memory error.
3) Install ddfix, says it can't find the ddraw.dll in my thief file.
4) Downloaded a prepatched .exe
5) Starting this exe up makes the screen flash and adjust a few times, then thief:gold has encountered a problem and needs to close error.
My cam.cfg and ddfix.ini have the same resolutions. I don't know what to do! My computer basics are Windows XP SP3, geforce go 7950 with the latest drivers.
thanks for your help
Pretty sure 1 and 3 are connected, and have been discussed. In fact, I'll get the link...Originally Posted by Chode
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Sorry don't remember what the thread was....
Edit
FOUND IT!
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthrea...thief+gamestop
Looks like all download vers of thief have this issue. Quite a shame. To save you some reading, basically the thread comes to the conclusion that the downloaded version 1.) is missing ddraw.dll in the thief.exe and 2.) using a prepatched exe just crashes the downloaded version. Don't know what to tell ya.
Last edited by sNeaksieGarrett; 2nd Apr 2009 at 02:19.
...................... damn it
thanks for your help anyways.
Drop me a Pm and Ill send you my Tg.exe
Yep.
Crap...so there's nothing we can do eh? Figures.....
Will that really help, though? Using the patched exe crashes the game; won't using someone else's exe (since that's what the patched exe is) do the same thing?
You wont know till you try....
Using the prepatched .exes from this thread just causes the game to crash, is your exe different from those?
Mine is the "Soldout" version and its been nocd/ddfix/widescreen patched, it has worked for some people, so drop me a pm with yer email and see how you get on.
True enough. Why the heck not, right? PM on its way.
[EDIT] No dice. Same problem; some flickering, and then a crash. Also interesting is that the Widescreen patch doesn't recognize my original executable.
Last edited by Enchantermon; 2nd Apr 2009 at 17:55.
Presumably some other file that the game uses is "wrong" in the Sold Out version.
What's the contents of your install.cfg file?
Patched by Darkloader, btw.Code:cd_path ./\ install_path . language english resname_base C:\Program Files\Thief Gold\crfs+./\thief load_path .+./\thief script_module_path .+./\thief movie_path .\movies+./\thief\movies
Ew, there's something wrong there.... You're install.cfg looks really whacky.
It should something look like this:
cd_path .\
install_path C:\Program Files\Thief Gold\
language english
resname_base C:\Program Files\Thief Gold\crfs
load_path .\
script_module_path .\
movie_path .\movies
Since you have the download version of thief though, I don't know where it stores all the files that are usually found on the CD... so you may need to check your folder for a "thief" folder or something. The install.cfg may need to be different than what I posted, but you had /\ in there for some reason.And in case you didn't know, ".\" means it is checking the root directory (i.e. Thief Gold)
I'd also like to see what Chode's looks like and if he had any luck either...
Unfortunately he has a downloaded version of TG, and Ive seen in the past this dosent conform to the usual rules and is un-patchable.
In that case, give a full file listing, with file sizes, of the entire folder and all subfolders.
Yeah, I went in that file a while ago (I forget why) and saw that, and had pretty much the same reaction. The game worked, though, so I was reluctant to meddle with it. Maybe I will, although I doubt that's the problem
Yes, there's a separate directory called "THIEF", but...it's odd. In it is a movies directory with the briefings and cutscenes. Those are normal. Also in the "THIEF" directory, however, is convict.osm, gen.osm, fam.crf, every mis file (excluding 8, but was there ever a miss8.mis?), and an OSM file for every mis file (excluding 15, 17, and 18). Thing is, all of these files are 0 bytes.
Indeed. Wondered about that myself, but that's how it came. The non-optimized cfg looks exactly the same, except that resname_base is:The install.cfg may need to be different than what I posted, but you had /\ in there for some reason.Code:resname_base .+./\thiefYeah, I did know that. Growing up on DOS does have its perks.
For your viewing pleasure:
Volume in drive C is SQ004092P01
Volume Serial Number is 2C38-9FB2
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold
04/03/2009 07:03 AM DIR .
04/03/2009 07:03 AM DIR ..
03/25/2009 09:15 PM 2,248,193 BackupOfOriginalThief.exe
04/02/2009 05:57 PM 548 cam.cfg
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,194,340 CONVICT.OSM
03/25/2009 09:02 PM DIR crfs
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 2,350 DARK.BND
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 4,165 DARK.CFG
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,057,490 DARK.GAM
11/23/2008 04:49 AM 59 DarkWidescreen.bat
05/28/2008 09:06 AM 119,808 ddfix.dll
04/02/2009 05:57 PM 1,525 ddfix.ini
04/02/2009 05:56 PM 2,240,000 DDFixANDWidescreenThief.exe
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 312,076 editor.res
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 111 EIDOS.URL
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 81 EidosStore.URL
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 121 EIDOSUK.URL
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 121 EIDOSUS.URL
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 96 ETS.URL
03/25/2009 07:58 PM DIR Fan Missions
03/25/2009 08:16 PM DIR Fan Mods
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,163,276 GEN.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 221,232 GOLDSKIP.EXE
03/25/2009 09:02 PM 193 install.cfg
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 58 LGT.URL
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 316,928 LGVID.AX
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,370,328 MISS01.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,196,796 MISS02.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,333,112 MISS03.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,210,740 MISS04.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,345,404 MISS05.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,203,092 MISS06.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,218,688 MISS07.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,221,300 MISS09.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 2,254,264 miss1.mis
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 6,036,648 miss10.mis
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,244,252 MISS10.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 6,844,470 MISS11.MIS
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,371,744 MISS11.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 6,662,563 miss12.mis
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,196,496 MISS12.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 9,743,629 MISS13.MIS
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,280,580 MISS13.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 6,912,519 miss14.mis
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,264,212 MISS14.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 11,436,874 miss15.mis
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 10,857,133 MISS16.MIS
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 1,215,724 MISS16.OSM
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 11,986,008 MISS17.MIS
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 7,780,067 miss18.mis
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 9,898,950 miss2.mis
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 9,632,542 miss3.mis
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 8,592,584 MISS4.MIS
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 10,775,253 miss5.mis
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 10,712,215 miss6.mis
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 10,577,064 MISS7.MIS
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 10,574,197 miss9.mis
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 236,592 motiondb.bin
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 326,656 MSVCRT40.dll
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 162 OLDinstall.cfg
04/02/2009 05:37 PM 2,248,193 Originalthief.exe
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 99 REGISTER.URL
03/25/2009 09:01 PM DIR SAVES
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 4,156 SHKRES.RES
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 730 skeldata.res
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 84,298 TEXTURE.RES
04/03/2009 07:03 AM 0 TGlisting.txt
03/25/2009 08:56 PM DIR THIEF
04/02/2009 05:57 PM 2,240,000 thief.exe
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 19,261 thiefalphaIIu.log
03/25/2009 08:57 PM 134,664 Uninstall.exe
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 94 USER.10
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 93 USER.5
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 93 USER.8
03/25/2009 09:12 PM 54 USER.CFG
04/02/2009 05:57 PM 321 WeiDU.log
04/02/2009 05:37 PM DIR widescreen
69 File(s) 183,127,685 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\crfs
03/25/2009 09:02 PM DIR .
03/25/2009 09:02 PM DIR ..
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 221,185 bitmap.crf
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 1,777,665 books.crf
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 4,097 default.crf
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 4,097 editor.crf
04/26/2005 12:15 PM 11,859,825 fam.crf
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 12,496,897 intrface.crf
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 7,671,809 mesh.crf
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 13,881,345 motions.crf
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 7,778,305 obj.crf
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 8,193 pal.crf
04/26/2005 12:19 PM 148,779,009 snd.crf
04/26/2005 12:19 PM 8,193 strings.crf
12 File(s) 204,490,620 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\Fan Missions
03/25/2009 07:58 PM DIR .
03/25/2009 07:58 PM DIR ..
0 File(s) 0 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\Fan Mods
03/25/2009 08:16 PM DIR .
03/25/2009 08:16 PM DIR ..
04/02/2009 05:36 PM DIR Dark Widescreen
03/25/2009 07:57 PM DIR DarkLoader
04/02/2009 05:56 PM DIR DDFix
0 File(s) 0 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\Fan Mods\Dark Widescreen
04/02/2009 05:36 PM DIR .
04/02/2009 05:36 PM DIR ..
03/25/2009 08:15 PM 486,715 DarkWidescreen-v6r2.zip
1 File(s) 486,715 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\Fan Mods\DarkLoader
03/25/2009 07:57 PM DIR .
03/25/2009 07:57 PM DIR ..
03/25/2009 07:55 PM 771,912 DarkLoader_Setup_v4.1.exe
1 File(s) 771,912 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\Fan Mods\DDFix
04/02/2009 05:56 PM DIR .
04/02/2009 05:56 PM DIR ..
05/28/2008 09:17 AM 7,994 ddfix readme.txt
01/05/2009 10:34 AM 2,876,631 DDFix-DromEd1.zip
01/05/2009 10:34 AM 982,472 DDFix-Thief1.zip
03/25/2009 08:07 PM 67,956 ddfixG.7z
03/25/2009 08:15 PM 58,212 ddfixM.7z
5 File(s) 3,993,265 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\SAVES
03/25/2009 09:01 PM DIR .
03/25/2009 09:01 PM DIR ..
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 2,200 CFG0000.BND
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 2,043 CFG0001.BND
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 2,207 CFG0002.BND
01/08/2009 05:51 PM 2,366 cfg0003.bnd
03/25/2009 03:21 AM 1,198,090 game0000.sav
03/14/2009 09:17 AM 1,428,282 game0001.sav
03/18/2009 12:26 PM 1,433,219 game0002.sav
03/24/2009 08:52 PM 1,438,659 game0003.sav
03/24/2009 08:58 PM 1,446,046 game0004.sav
03/24/2009 09:02 PM 1,446,453 game0005.sav
03/24/2009 09:12 PM 1,435,066 game0006.sav
03/24/2009 09:20 PM 1,436,891 game0007.sav
03/24/2009 09:47 PM 1,443,501 game0008.sav
03/25/2009 01:03 AM 1,437,601 game0009.sav
03/25/2009 01:14 AM 1,434,638 game0010.sav
03/25/2009 02:59 AM 1,445,718 game0011.sav
03/12/2009 01:53 AM 2,007,667 game0012.sav
03/12/2009 02:06 AM 2,008,945 game0013.sav
03/11/2009 11:36 PM 1,975,744 game0014.sav
03/25/2009 03:21 AM 1,198,104 quick.sav
20 File(s) 24,223,440 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\THIEF
03/25/2009 08:56 PM DIR .
03/25/2009 08:56 PM DIR ..
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 CONVICT.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 fam.crf
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 GEN.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS01.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS02.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS03.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS04.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS05.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS06.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS07.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS09.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 miss1.mis
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 miss10.mis
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS10.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS11.MIS
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS11.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 miss12.mis
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS12.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS13.MIS
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS13.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 miss14.mis
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS14.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 miss15.mis
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS16.MIS
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS16.OSM
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS17.MIS
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 miss18.mis
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 miss2.mis
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 miss3.mis
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS4.MIS
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 miss5.mis
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 miss6.mis
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 MISS7.MIS
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 0 miss9.mis
04/03/2009 06:49 AM DIR MOVIES
34 File(s) 0 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\THIEF\MOVIES
04/03/2009 06:49 AM DIR .
04/03/2009 06:49 AM DIR ..
04/26/2005 12:16 PM 18,152,220 B01.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 25,543,266 B02.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 25,579,126 B03.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 19,624,792 B04.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 12,274,144 B05.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 18,200,658 B06.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 18,278,246 B07.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 13,757,624 B09.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 16,921,102 B10.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 14,535,636 B11.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 11,121,416 B12.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 14,085,186 B13.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 9,081,658 B14.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 25,506,428 B15.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 21,159,038 B16.AVI
04/26/2005 12:17 PM 20,381,956 B17.AVI
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 21,836,360 B18.AVI
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 15,074,472 CREDITS.AVI
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 23,432,392 CS06.AVI
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 26,019,166 CS11.AVI
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 28,416,822 Cs14.avi
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 929,808 DEATH.AVI
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 27,749,326 INTRO.AVI
04/26/2005 12:18 PM 944,728 SUCCESS.AVI
24 File(s) 428,605,570 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\widescreen
04/02/2009 05:37 PM DIR .
04/02/2009 05:37 PM DIR ..
04/02/2009 05:37 PM DIR backup
11/23/2008 07:29 AM 18,326 COPYING
11/23/2008 09:17 AM 9,064 DarkWidescreen.tp2
11/23/2008 07:38 AM 1,149 DarkWidescreen.txt
05/18/2008 02:50 AM 61 fov
11/23/2008 03:23 AM 8,398 Technical Documentation.txt
07/17/2008 01:04 PM 507,904 WeiDU.exe
6 File(s) 544,902 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\widescreen\backup
04/02/2009 05:37 PM DIR .
04/02/2009 05:37 PM DIR ..
04/02/2009 05:57 PM DIR 0
0 File(s) 0 bytes
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\widescreen\backup\0
04/02/2009 05:57 PM DIR .
04/02/2009 05:57 PM DIR ..
04/02/2009 05:56 PM 21 ARGS.0
04/02/2009 05:56 PM 116 MAPPINGS.0
04/02/2009 05:56 PM 61 READLN.0
3 File(s) 198 bytes
Total Files Listed:
175 File(s) 846,244,307 bytes
38 Dir(s) 5,428,629,504 bytes free
Fixed the list. Stupid angle brackets.
Last edited by Enchantermon; 3rd Apr 2009 at 07:15.
While NV comes up with a possible fix, can I also suggest that you do the following as your thief folder has folders in it that arent needed by the game and should really be elsewhere
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\Fan Missions
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\Fan Mods
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\Fan Mods\Dark Widescreen
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\Fan Mods\DarkLoader
Directory of C:\PROGRA~1\Thief Gold\Fan Mods\DDFix
May i suggest the following instead..
Create a folder with subfolders as follows
C:\Games\Thief\Thief1 - (this will be where Thief gold will reside)
C:\Games\Thief\Thief2
C:\Games\Thief\Darkloader - (install folder)
C:\Games\Thief\Missions\T1 - (darkloader requires a folder for each version of thief installed, T1, T2, etc)
C:\Games\Thief\Patches\ - (download folder for osm files, ddfix, ws-patch, etc )
C:\Games\Thief\Patches\Utilities - (download folder, Darkloader, Misc thief files etc)
Yeah, I guess it would be better to avoid putting stuff in the game's root. I'll shift things around a little.
Well, okay, that's strange.
Both Thief games have some weird semi-copy protection where they check for certain files from the CD, namely convict.osm for Thief 1 and convict.osm and miss8.mis for Thief 2 - those files need to exist in the CD path or the game won't start, and it doesn't matter if they are 0kb or not.
The proper way to get rid of that check is to completely remove the cdpath line from install.cfg.
Let's try this for a start (save to your Thief Gold folder as a .cmd file and run it):
Code:move .\Thief\Movies .\Movies ren install.cfg install.cfg.bak echo install_path . > install.cfg echo language english >> install.cfg echo resname_base .\Res >> install.cfg echo load_path . >> install.cfg echo script_module_path . >> install.cfg echo movie_path .\movies >> install.cfg echo. >> install.cfg
Also, what resolution are you running at? Maybe try it at something like 640x480 first to make sure that there isn't a problem with that.
@Enchantermon: Fascinating. I assume your thief install already created the THIEF directory with those 0 byte files? How you organize your thief is up to you, but it certainly seems to me that the game is crashing because it can't find it's files due to your install.cfg being weird.
Then again, you said it worked so I don't get that.
Maybe after we figure out how to make sure that all your files are accessed correctly in your install.cfg, it will work. *crosses fingers*
I more or less said this already some posts above yours. Though I wonder if we might finally solve it if it turns out using a prepatched exe and fixing the install.cfg works...
@NV: Does that first line with install_path need two ">" ? all the other ones in your post have two. (just thought i would point it out)
Note: If he changes it to res, he'll need to rename his crfs folder to res then. (that's probably obvious but just trying to make sure everything works out.)
Yeah. You'll see them in my directory listing. If it only checks for convict.osm, though, I don't know why the install re-created the whole lot.
Yeah...Thief works, it's just that I can't install DDFix (or the widescreen patch, for that matter)Then again, you said it worked so I don't get that.
No, it doesn't. The ">" (in this case) writes the echoed string to the specified file. The reason the rest of the lines have ">>" is because they append the echoed string to the file. If he had used ">" for all lines, then each subsequent line would have overwritten everything that was in the file previously. If he had used ">>" for all of them, then each line would have simply been added to the end of the existing file, solving nothing.
Ah! Good eye, thanks.Note: If he changes it to res, he'll need to rename his crfs folder to res then. (that's probably obvious but just trying to make sure everything works out.
I was running with 800x600, since that's the lowest that my monitor will go. I'll try both.
[Edit] No go. I first tried the original exe to make sure the game still worked, and it did, but when I ran the cmd file and tried the original again, it crashed. Tried Bikerdude's just for kicks, and it crashed, too.
Last edited by Enchantermon; 3rd Apr 2009 at 16:08.
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